It Requires Repeating Until Perhaps Some Understand


Posted in Politics 2008


May. 13, 2008 at 11:42

by BrendaBee

I read the following on Mebloggin's site and told him it should be repeated often; so I am repeating it on my site again in hopes a few more people will read it and perhaps finally understand.  BB


Speech Pres. W should give.....


Normally, I start these things out by saying "My Fellow Americans."
Not doing it this time. If the polls are any indication, I don't know who more than half of you are any longer. I do know something terrible has happened, and that you're really not fellow Americans any longer.

I'll cut right to the chase here: I quit. Now before anyone gets all
in a lather about me quitting to avoid impeachment, or to avoid prosecution or something, let me assure you: there's been no breaking of laws or impeachable offenses in this office.

The reason I'm quitting is simple. I'm fed up with you people.

I'm fed up because you have no understanding of what's really going on in the world. Or of what's going on in this once-great nation of ours.  And the majority of you are too damned lazy to do your homework and figure it out.

  (   This next  paragraph was  true until the recent housing crash.  The housing crash was not due to President Bush's mistakes or even the federal government.  It was due to greedy mortgage brokers passing out mortgage loans to people who didn't have a hope or a pray of making the mortgage payments once the Adjustable Rate Mortgages  adjusted upwards.  The greedy brokers then took their slice off the top and sold the mortgages to brokers who again took their slice off the top and sold the mortgages.  And so finally the stuff hit  bottom and hit the fan.  Anyhow that is why I am leaving it in here although it is a bit out of date and can't all be saidto b e true today. ) 

Let's start local. You've been sold a bill of goods by politicians and
the news media. Polls show that the majority of you think the economy is in the tank. And that's despite there being a record number of homeowners including a record number of MINORITY homeowners. And, while we're mentioning minorities, I'll point out that minority business ownership is at an all-time high. 
Our unemployment rate is as low as it ever was during the Clinton Administration.  I've mentioned all those things before, but it doesn't seem to have sunk in.
  
(From here on out is accurate and as current today as when it was first posted.   And in this election year as we get closer to seeing Barack Obama and John McCain facing off in November    I think we need reminding of a few facts so as to make a reasonable choice for the next president. AND. I am not endorsing either candidate.   BB)

Despite the shock of 9/11 to our economy, the stock market has
climbed to record levels and more Americans than ever are participating in  these markets. Meanwhile, all you can do is whine about gas prices, and most  of you are too stupid to realize that gas prices are high because there's increased demand in other parts of the world  competing with us for the available oil.  So we in the United States who have lived  with cheap gasoline  allowing our love affairs with our big gas guzzling  road monsters will just have to suck up and do what the rest of the world has always done.  We can be satisfied with smaller automobiles, learn to bike and get off of our dead asses and WALK.

We face real threats in the world. Don't give me this "blood for oil" crap. If I was trading blood for oil, I would've already seized Iraq's oil fields and let the rest of the country go to hell. And don't give me this "Bush Lied, People Died" crap either. If I was the liar you morons take me for, I could've easily had chemical weapons planted in
Iraq so they could be "discovered." Instead, I owned up to the fact that the intelligence was faulty. Let me remind you that the rest of the world thought Saddam had the goods, same as me. Let me also remind you that regime change in Iraq was official US policy before I came into office. Some guy named
"Clinton" established that policy. Bet you didn't know that, did you?

You idiots need to understand that we face a unique enemy. Back during the cold war, there were two major competing political and economic models squaring off. We won that war, but we did so because, fundamentally, the Communists wanted to survive, just as we do. We were simply able to outspend and out-tech them.   The Soviet Union went bankrupt because the government couldn't continue their cradle to grave support of the people known as Communist Socialism and carry on a modern game of chicken at the same time.

That's not the case this time. The soldiers of our new enemy don't care if they survive. In fact, they want to die. That'd be fine, as long as they weren't also committed to taking as many of you with them as they can. But they are. They want to kill you. And the bastards are all over the globe.

You should be grateful that they haven't gotten any more of us here in the
United States since September 11. But you're not. That's because you've got no idea how hard a small number of intelligence, military, law enforcement and homeland security people have worked to make sure of that.  When this whole mess started, I warned you that this would be a long and difficult fight. I'm disappointed how many of you people think a long and difficult fight amounts to a single season of "Survivor."

Instead, you've grown impatient. You're incapable of seeing things through the long lens of history, the way our enemies do. You think that wars should last a few months, a couple of years, tops.

Making matters worse, you actively support those who help the enemy.  Every time you buy the
New York Times, every time you send a donation to a cut-and-run Democrat's political campaign, well you might just as well FedEx a grenade launcher to a Jihadist. It amounts to the same thing.

In this day and age, it's easy enough to find the truth. It's all over the Internet. It just isn't on the pages of the
New York Times or on NBC News. But even if it were, I doubt you'd be any smarter. Most of you would rather watch American Idol.

I could say more about your expectations that the government will always be there to bail you out, even if you're too stupid to leave a city that's below sea level and has a hurricane approaching. I could say more about your insane belief that government, not your own wallet, is where the money comes from. But I've come to the conclusion that were I to do so, it would sail right over your heads.

So I quit.
I'm going back to Crawford. I've got an energy-efficient house down there (Al Gore could only dream of one like it), and the capability to be fully self-sufficient. No one ever heard of Crawford before I got elected, and as soon as I'm done here pretty much no one will ever hear of it again.  Maybe I'll be lucky enough to die of old age before the last pillars of America fall.

Oh, and by the way, Cheney's quitting too. That means Pelosi is your new President. You asked for it. Watch what she does carefully, because I still have a glimmer of hope that there're just enough of you remaining who are smart enough to turn this thing around in 2008.

So, that's it. God bless what's left of America. Some of you know what I mean.

The rest of you:
Buzz off...!

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North Carolina Voters by Race and Party


Posted in Politics 2008


May. 1, 2008 at 16:32

by BrendaBee

Here is a very interesting article from FactCheck.org  concerning North Carolina population and voters.  I have been hearing and reading a lot about the Black vote carrying NC for Obama.  Well according to this article that isn't likely unless White voters stay home on election day.  Then again, NC does have a fir share of colleges and universities and the young voters of both races are still backing Obama regardless of  his affiliation with Rev. Jeremiah Wright or how many false statements he has made. (Fact Check.org has  been giving a good accounting of false statements by both Clinton, Obama and  McCain)  BB

FactCheck.org articles:


Q:
What percentage of North Carolina's population is African American?
A:
In 2006, African Americans made up 21 percent of North Carolina's total population. As of April 28, they also represent 21 percent of the state's registered voters and 38 percent of registered Democrats.

According to the Census Bureau’s 2006 American Community Survey, the most recent data available, the total African American population for North Carolina was 1.9 million. That’s just over 21 percent of the 8.9 million people living in the state.

We suspect this question may have something to do with the May 6 North Carolina Democratic primary between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in which, according to a Public Policy Polling survey of likely voters released April 28, Obama is leading Clinton 51 percent to 39 percent among all voters and 83 percent to 10 percent among African Americans.

As of April 28, the North Carolina State Board of Elections put the total number of registered voters in North Carolina at 5.8 million. African Americans make up 21 percent of those voters and 38 percent of all Democratic voters. (The vast majority (84 percent ) of African American voters are registered as Democrats.)

North Carolina has a modified closed primary, meaning that Democrats and Republicans must vote based on their party affiliation, but unaffiliated voters are free to vote for any candidate. Nearly 12 percent of registered African Americans are unaffiliated, and they make up 11.5 percent of all independent voters in the state, according to the Board of Elections.

The number of blacks registering to vote for the first time has increased, probably as a result of Obama's campaign. Associated Press reporter Mike Baker reported that the state has seen a surge in registration among black voters in the first three months of this year, with 45,000 registering for the first time, more than four times the number of newly registered blacks in the same time period four years ago.

-D'Angelo Gore

Sources
North Carolina State Board of Elections. "North Carolina Party Statistics Report 2007," 2 Jan. 2008. accessed 23 April 2008.

North Carolina State Board of Elections. North Carolina County Statistics Report, 24 April 2008.

American Community Survey 2006. Total Population. U.S. Census Bureau, accessed 23 April 2008.

American Community Survey 2006. "Percent of the Total Population Who Are Black or African American Alone: 2006," accessed 23 April 2008.

Baker, Mike. "NC Voters Registration Surge." Associated Press, 9 April 2008. accessed 23 April
2008.

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More Obama Illusion for the True Believers. (Just doing your homework for you!)


Posted in Politics 2008


Apr. 3, 2008 at 10:14

by BrendaBee

More from Factcheck.org on the Obama camps double dealing.  This is so typical of the self-righteous!    All of my adult life I have marveled at the means that the liberal thinkers are willing to use to get their way.  And this was even in my youth when I too was a raving liberal (before I grew up and saw the light!)  Read on you who feel Obama is the new messiah.  He has his feet firmly planted in the cess.  BB
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"Substance Abuse
A widely forwarded e-mail claims that Obama's bills are more substantive and numerous than Clinton's. Don't believe it.

Summary
A misleading e-mail has been making the rounds, alleging that Clinton has fewer legislative accomplishments than Obama, and that they are less substantive. We've had questions about it from a number of readers, and blogs have jumped into the fray. So what's the real story on the Senate careers of the Democratic presidential candidates?

We find that the e-mail is false in almost every particular:
It sets up a face-off between apples and, well, broccoli, comparing only the Clinton-sponsored bills that became law with all bills sponsored or cosponsored by Obama, whether they were signed into law or not."

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How to NOT take money from them and yet recieve $213,000.


Posted in Politics 2008


Apr. 3, 2008 at 03:07

by BrendaBee

I was challenged to offer some reason for my not supporting Barack Obama since he is so much of a saint according to some.  So here is one little snippet: 


Obama '08 Ad: Nothing's ChangedObama


Obama:
Since the gas lines of the ’70s, Democrats and Republicans have talked about energy independence, but nothing’s changed — except now Exxon’s making $40 billion a year, and we’re paying $3.50 for gas.
I’m Barack Obama. I don’t take money from oil companies or Washington lobbyists, and I won’t let them block change anymore. They’ll pay a penalty on windfall profits. We’ll invest in alternative energy, create jobs and free ourselves from foreign oil.
I approve this message because it’s time that Washington worked for you. Not them.
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It's true that Obama doesn't take money directly from oil companies, but then, no presidential, House or Senate candidate does. They can't: Corporations have been prohibited from contributing directly to federal candidates since the Tillman Act became law in 1907.

Obama has, however, accepted more than $213,000 in contributions from individuals who work for, or whose spouses work for, companies in the oil and gas industry, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. That's not as much as Sen. Hillary Clinton, who has received more than $306,000 in donations from people tied to the industry, but it's still a substantial amount.

Now far be it from me to accuse anyone so beloved as Obama of lying, but can anyone tell me how he happened to do the first (red highlight) and  the second (red highlight) at the same time?  A person must have to have a special  something to pull something like this off.

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Clinton-Obama Slugfest Light on Whoopers


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Jan. 23, 2008 at 09:59

by BrendaBee

I was surprised to see FactCheck.org found the Clinton vs Obama  No-Love-Lost rhetoric relatively mild on actual biggie whoppers.   I guess the writers have finally discovered that facts are so much easier to check out in this age of computers.  And that there will be those coming right behind their bosses with scrub pail and mop.  BB
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Clinton-Obama Slugfest
Who lands a clean punch? Edwards was there, too.
Summary
In one of the liveliest debates of the 2008 presidential campaign, the three top Democrats slugged it out in Myrtle Beach, S.C. We noted some low blows:

1) Clinton falsely accused Obama of saying he "really liked the ideas of the Republicans" including private Social Security accounts and deficit spending. Not true. The entire 49-minute interview to which she refers contains no endorsement of private Social Security accounts or deficit spending, and Obama specifically scorned GOP calls for tax cuts.

2)
Obama falsely denied endorsing single-payer government health insurance when he first ran for the Senate, saying, "I never said that we should try to go ahead and get single-payer." But in fact he gave a speech in 2003 saying, "I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer health care program."

3) Edwards misleadingly claimed, "I was the one who beat John McCain" in a recent CNN poll. The problem is that there is a more recent CNN poll, one that shows either Clinton or Obama beating McCain and doesn't include Edwards.

 
 
Analysis
Just three Democratic candidates took part in the scorching debate cosponsored by CNN and the Congressional Black Caucus in Myrtle Beach, S.C.: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards. It was the next-to-last such encounter scheduled for the Democrats prior to the Feb. 5 "Super Duper Tuesday" showdown when more than 20 states hold nominating contests. South Carolina Democrats go to the polls Saturday.

I Love the '80s!

clintonClinton attacked Obama for supposedly supporting Republican ideas, which she said included federal deficits and "privatizing" Social Security:
Clinton: [He] has said in the last week that he really liked the ideas of the Republicans over the last 10 to 15 years, and we can give you the exact quote. ... They were ideas like privatizing Social Security, like moving back from a balanced budget and a surplus to deficit and debt.
Obama pushed back, saying he had never endorsed such notions:
Clinton: [You] talked about the Republicans having ideas over the last 10 to 15 years.

Obama: I didn't say they were good ones.

Clinton: Well, you can read the context of it.

Obama: Well, I didn't say they were good ones. ...

Clinton: It certainly came across in the way that it was presented...
We can’t speak to how things "came across" to Clinton, but we’ve listened to the entire interview and to our ears, it’s just flatly false that Obama said he "really liked the ideas of the Republicans." Clinton is referring to what Obama told the editorial board of the Reno Gazette-Journal. A video is available on the Internet. 
Here’s what Obama actually said in the portion to which Clinton referred:
Obama (Jan. 14, 2008): The Republican approach has played itself out. I think it’s fair to say that the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10, 15 years, in the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom. Now, you’ve heard it all before. You look at the economic policies when they’re being debated among the presidential candidates, it’s all tax cuts. Well, we know, we’ve done that; we’ve tried it. That’s not really going to solve our energy problems, for example.
There’s a difference between praising someone for having ideas and praising the idea itself. Obama is doing the former, and just as clearly not doing the latter. He says the GOP approach has "played itself out," for example.

It’s also false to imply, as Clinton did, that Obama endorsed Republican proposals to set up private Social Security accounts or that he praised deficit spending. We listened to the entire 49-minute interview, and Obama said no such thing.

Obama's Reagan Remarks to Reno Gazette-Journal,
Jan. 14, 2008

Obama: I don’t want to present myself as some sort of singular figure. I think part of what’s different are the times. I do think that, for example, the 1980 election was different. I mean, I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that, you know, Richard Nixon did not, and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path, because the country was ready for it. I think they felt like, you know, with all the excesses of the '60s and the '70s, you know government had grown and grown, but there wasn’t much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating, and I think people just tapped into – he tapped into what people were already feeling, which is we want clarity, we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism, and, and, you know, entrepreneurship that had been missing.

I think Kennedy, 20 years earlier, moved the country in a fundamentally different direction. So I think a lot of it just has to do with the times. I think we’re in one of those times right now, where people feels like things as they are going right now aren’t working, that we’re bogged down in the same arguments that we’ve been having, and they’re not useful. And the Republican approach, I think, has played itself out. I think it’s fair to say that the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10, 15 years, in the sense that they were challenging conventional wisdom.

Now, you’ve heard it all before. You look at the economic policies when they’re being debated among the presidential candidates, it’s all tax cuts. Well, we know, we’ve done that; we’ve tried it. That’s not really going to solve our energy problems, for example.
I Love the '80s: Part Deux

Obama also has been taking heat for praising Ronald Reagan in that same interview. See the text box to the left for his exact words. Clinton tried to avoid mentioning that, for good reason, but Obama turned it against her anyway:
Obama: The irony of this is that you provided much more fulsome praise of Ronald Reagan in a book by Tom Brokaw that's being published right now, as did Bill Clinton in the past. So these are the kinds of political games that we are accustomed to.
Obama is correct: Both Bill and Hillary Clinton have lauded Reagan’s political skills. Tom Brokaw’s "Boom! Voices of the Sixties" quotes Clinton as saying that Reagan was "a child of the Depression" who understood pressures on the working and middle class:
Hillary Clinton (in Brokaw book): When he had those big tax cuts and they went too far, he oversaw the largest tax increase. He could call the Soviet Union the Evil Empire and then negotiate arms-control agreements. He played the balance and the music beautifully.
And here’s Bill Clinton in 1998 at the dedication of the Reagan Building in Washington, D.C.:
Bill Clinton (May 5, 1998): The only thing that could make this day more special is if President Reagan could be here himself. But if you look at this atrium, I think we feel the essence of his presence: his unflagging optimism, his proud patriotism, his unabashed faith in the American people. I think every American who walks through this incredible space and lifts his or her eyes to the sky will feel that.
We’ll leave it to others to decide who's praising Reagan more. The fact is that Bill and Hillary have done it, not just Obama.

To Their Health

Clinton charged that Obama’s position has shifted on health care, from favoring a single-payer, universal system when he was a Senate candidate to the plan he favors now, which would provide access to health insurance for all but wouldn’t require it. Obama denied that he had ever said he would work to get a single-payer plan. We score this round for Clinton.
Clinton: Secondly, we have seen once again a kind of evolution here. When Senator Obama ran for the Senate, he was for single-payer and said he was for single-payer if we could get a Democratic president and Democratic Congress. As time went on, the last four or so years, he said he was for single-payer in principle, then he was for universal health care. And then his policy is not, it is not universal. ...

Obama: I never said that we should try to go ahead
and get single-payer. What I said was that if I were starting from scratch, if we didn't have a system in which employers had typically provided health care, I would probably go with a single-payer system.
But Obama's denial doesn't hold up. In a speech to the AFL-CIO in 2003, when he was setting up his run for the Senate, Obama said:
Obama (June, 30, 2003): I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, is spending 14 percent, 14 percent, of its gross national product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that’s what I’d like to see. And as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, we have to take back the House.
That sounds to us like someone who's pretty gung-ho for a single-payer plan. But after Democrats captured control of both the House and Senate in 2006, Obama tempered his position. He said in a New Yorker interview last year:
Obama (in The New Yorker, May 7, 2007): If you're starting from scratch, then a single-payer system ... would probably make sense. But we've got all these legacy systems in place, and managing the transition ... would be difficult to pull off. So we may need a system that's not so disruptive.
But that was 2007, not when he was running for the Senate, which is what Clinton was referring to.
Obama "Took a Pass?"

obama Clinton was mostly right when she attacked Obama for casting  130 "present" votes as an Illinois state senator. But she was wrong when she added, "the Chicago Tribune, his hometown paper, said that all of those present votes was taking a pass. It was for political reasons."

It’s true that Obama voted "present" nearly 130 times, rather than casting a yes or no vote, an option in the state Legislature. But let's straighten out the sourcing of the article that said he "essentially took a pass" when he cast those votes. That one was written by Nathan Gonzales, political editor of the Rothenberg Political Report, in a Feb. 14, 2007,
opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal, not the Chicago Tribune. The Tribune story, which ran in December, did quote Bonnie Grabenhofer, president of Illinois National Organization of Women as saying, "When we needed someone to take a stand, Senator Obama took a pass." But those weren't the words of the Tribune itself. And Grabenhofer was endorsing Clinton at the time.

Beyond that, there's some substance to Clinton's general criticism. Obama says some of his votes were part of intricate parliamentary maneuvering, not just avoiding political heat. The New York Times examined the issue in December and found a mixed record: "Sometimes the 'present' votes were in line with instructions from Democratic leaders or because he objected to provisions in bills that he might otherwise support," the paper reported. "At other times, Mr. Obama voted present on questions that had overwhelming bipartisan support. In at least a few cases, the issue was politically sensitive."

hill.obama.imageKa-Pow! Boffo!

Obama and Clinton traded more personal swipes when Obama attacked Clinton's one-time membership on the board of directors of the world's largest retailer:
Obama: Because while I was working on those streets watching those folks see their jobs shift overseas, you were a corporate lawyer sitting on the board at Wal-Mart.
It's true that Clinton sat on the Wal-Mart board for six years while her husband was governor of Arkansas, where the chain has its corporate headquarters. She was paid about $18,000 a year for doing it. At the time, she worked at the Rose Law Firm, which had represented Wal-Mart in various matters. According to accounts from other board members, Clinton was a thorn in the side of the company's founder, Sam Walton, on the matter of promoting women, few of whom were in the ranks of managers or executives at the time. She also strongly advocated for more environmentally sound corporate practices, board colleagues and company executives noted. She made limited progress in both areas, but she never voiced any objections to the company's anti-union stand, they said. But in 2005 she returned a $5,000 contribution to her campaign from Wal-Mart, citing "serious differences" with its "current" practices.

Clinton hit back at Obama, reminding voters of his relationship with a longtime contributor who is now under federal indictment.
Clinton: ...I was fighting against those ideas when you were practicing law and representing your contributor, Rezko, in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago. ...

CNN's Wolf Blitzer:
Senator Clinton made a serious allegation that you worked for a slumlord. And I wonder if you want to respond.

Obama: I'm happy to respond. Here's what happened: I was an associate at a law firm that represented a church group that had partnered with this individual to do a project and I did about five hours worth of work on this joint project. That's what she's referring to.
According to an investigation last year by the Chicago Sun-Times, Antoin Rezko was involved in developing at least 30 low-income housing buildings in Chicago, in partnership with several community groups and using a combination of taxpayer and private funds. A number of the buildings fell into disrepair, collecting housing code violations, and Rezmar, Rezko's company, was sued on many occasions.

Obama was associated with a law firm that represented the community groups working with Rezko on several deals. There's no evidence that Obama spent much time on them, and he never represented Rezko directly. So it was wrong for Clinton to say he was "representing ... Rezko." That's untrue.

Obama has known Rezko, however, since he left Harvard Law School, and Rezko has been a major contributor and campaign fundraiser for him since Obama's first campaign for the Illinois state Senate. Earlier, we looked into questions about a land deal in which the two wound up with adjacent parcels. No wrongdoing was found in connection with that transaction, though Obama has said it was "boneheaded" for him to be involved in it when he knew Rezko was under investigation. Rezko has since been indicted on fraud and other charges. Obama, who returned some contributions from Rezko and his associates long ago, returned another $41,000 over the weekend in an effort to distance himself from the businessman.
Borrowed Time

Clinton and Obama battled over their votes on bankruptcy bills and an amendment to cap interest charged on credit.
Clinton: There was a particular amendment that I think is very telling. It was an amendment to prohibit credit card companies from charging more than 30 percent interest. Senator Obama voted for it. I voted against it. ...
Obama: It is a fact, because I thought 30 percent potentially was too high of a ceiling.
Obama did vote against, and Clinton voted for,  an amendment that would have placed a 30 percent cap on the interest rate that could be charged on any extension of credit. The amendment failed by a vote of 74 to 24 in 2005. We could not find any public statements made by Obama regarding the amendment. The Clinton campaign points to a Chicago Tribune article that says Obama changed his mind on the vote in a move the paper attributes, in a none-too-flattering way, to the freshman senator's learning curve:
Chicago Tribune (June 12, 2007): To some liberals, the proposal was a no-brainer: a ceiling of 30 percent on interest rates for credit cards and other consumer debt. And as he left his office to vote on it, Obama planned to support the measure. ...
But when the amendment came up for a vote, Obama was standing next to Sen. Paul Sarbanes, D-Md., the senior Democrat on the banking committee and the leader of those opposing the landmark bill, which would make it harder for Americans to get rid of debt. "You know, this is probably not a smart amendment for us to vote for," Obama recalled Sarbanes telling him. "Thirty percent is sort of a random number."
Obama joined Sarbanes in voting against the amendment. ... Obama's deferral to Sarbanes was just one example of the freshman senator learning to navigate a chamber famous for its egos.
As for whether the 30 percent cap was too high, that’s certainly a matter of opinion. Sen. Mark Dayton of Minnesota, sponsor of the amendment, said on the Senate floor that such a cap “is still consumer abuse” but is much better than rates of more than 300 percent, which he said were being charged by some loan operations in the country. The nonpartisan Government Accountability Office said in a September 2006 report that the rates credit card companies charge to those who commit a "violation of terms" averaged 27.3 percent in 2005. Seven of the 28 cards the GAO examined charged rates of more than 30 percent.

In last night’s debate, Clinton also said she had opposed the overall bankruptcy bill, which made it more difficult for consumers to erase debt by declaring bankruptcy; Obama opposed it, too. She didn't vote on the final bill, which passed by a 74-25 vote, because it was the day of her husband's heart surgery.

Also, Obama mischaracterized Clinton's comments on her vote for an earlier, 2001 bankruptcy bill. He said:
Obama: In the last debate, Senator Clinton said she voted for [the 2001 bill] but hoped that it wouldn't pass. Now, I don't understand that approach to legislation.
That's not exactly what Clinton said. Moderator Tim Russert asked if she regretted voting for the 2001 bill. She answered:
Clinton (Jan. 15 debate): Sure I do. It never became law, as you know. It got tied up. It was a bill that had some things I agreed with and other things I didn't agree with. I was happy it never became law. I opposed the 2005 bill as well.
"I Was the One"

edwards.imageYes, there was another candidate in this debate. He got a couple of good swipes in at his adversaries, but we haven't addressed them here because they were mostly accurate. But former Sen. John Edwards echoed a misleading claim he made in a TV spot we criticized earlier, choosing his words only somewhat more carefully this time. He said, "The last time I saw one of [CNN's] polls that had all three of us against John McCain, I was the one that beat John McCain everywhere in America." That's literally true, but still misleading.

Actually, the most recent CNN poll, released 10 days ago, shows both Obama and Hillary beating McCain in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup. Edwards was not in that poll. The one he refers to, which "had all three of us" matched against McCain, is from early December. In that one, Edwards was indeed the only one of the three who was ahead of McCain, though Obama did tie him. That, of course, was long before a single vote was cast in a caucus or primary.

by Viveca Novak, with Brooks Jackson, Justin Bank, Joe Miller and Lori Robertson
Sources
Gonzales, Nathan. "The Ever-'Present' Obama; Barack has a long track record of not taking a stand." Wall Street Journal, 14 Feb. 2007.

Hernandez,
Raymond and Christopher Drew. "It’s Not Just ‘Ayes’ and ‘Nays’: Obama’s Votes in Illinois Echo," 20 Dec. 2007.

Brokaw, Tom. "Boom! Voices of the Sixties." New York: Random House, 2007.

Clinton, Bill. "Remarks by the President at Ronald Reagan Building Dedication." 5 May 1998. The White House, 22 January 2008.

Obama, Barack. Afternoon with Barack Obama, video by James Ball. 14 Jan. 2008.

Dorning, Mike and Christi Parsons. "Carefully crafting the Obama ‘brand’." Chicago Tribune, 12 June 2007.

Dayton, Mark. Comments on Senate floor, 2 March 2005.

U.S. Government Accountability Office. "Credit Cards: Increased Complexity in Rates and Fees Heightens Need for More Effective Disclosures to Consumers," Sept. 2006.

Barbaro, Michael. "As a Director, Clinton Moved Wal-Mart Board, but Only So Far." The New York Times. 20 May 2007.

Fouhy, Beth. "Clinton feels heat over Wal-Mart ties." The Associated Press, 12 March 2006.

Drew, Christopher, and Mike McIntire. "An Obama Patron and Friend Until an Indictment." The New York Times, 14 June 2007.

Novak, Tim. "Obama and his Rezko ties." Chicago Sun-Times, 23 April 2007.

MacFarquhar, Larissa. "The Conciliator." The New Yorker, 7 May 2007.
 
 
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Jan. 20, 2008 at 09:12

by BrendaBee

I have listened to and read much of  the speculating and second guessing and predicting and so I figured it was okay for me to throw in my two cents worth.  Of course my opinions are not as "learned"  or brilliantly stated or professional sounding.  Mine are merely gut reactions.  This disclaimer just to alert you to the fact that of all the people commenting on the results of yesterdays voting in Nevada I am the only one honest enough to admit I have no shining crystal ball giving me the answers.  BB

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Headlines:  Clinton and Romney Win in Nevada

By Chris Cillizza
washingtonpost.com staff writer


"With nearly 70 percent of the vote counted, Clinton led with 51 percent to 45 percent for Obama (Ill.). Former senator John Edwards trailed far behind with five percent."

I hope this puts a spike in Edwards hull and sinks his boat  once and for all.  I hate to think he and his blue collar background will turn out to be the perennial presidential candidate.  Whats with these North Carolinians anyhow?  the nation has John Edwards and Greensboro has Berkley Blanks.

Another aspect of a Clinton or Obama  Democratic presidential candidate that I am convinced of is that neither one can win.  Hillary is severely difficult to like  and no president has been elected without popular appeal  except perhaps Richard Nixon (remember Richard Nixon?).  Billy Boy has gotten her this far but he can not win the election for her.  

Obama lacks experience and can never hold up in a presidential debate with his lovely speeches and a critical audience.  He will need to bring more to the podium than a big smile and  high  ideals which is all he has.  Maybe in 2016 he will have a chance if he stays in the Senate and makes a name for himself actually governing.   So with neither  Clinton or Obama electable  we can be assured of a Republican president  with either Giuliani, McCain or Romney.


"Early entrance polling showed Clinton leading among women, older voters and those who prized experience while Obama held an advantage among black voters and those who valued a need for chance,"

Well, I guess this contradicts my opinion that while the country as a whole might be ready for a woman president the over 60 group which are the most serious voters still are not that liberal.

"Romney won at least 14 delegates in Nevada's caucuses, extending his overall lead in the race for delegates, an AP analysis of caucus results showed. Nevada still had 17 Republican delegates to award. Romney had 56 overall delegates followed by former governor Mike Huckabee (Ark.) with 32 and Sen. John McCain with 13."

I really hate to see Romney get these votes.  First taking Michigan and now Nevada.  Of course he was going on his father's popularity  in Michigan and his Mormon faith to some extent in Nevada.   It still makes me uneasy because  in my personal rating he is a very distant third to Giuliani and McCain.  If you care to check out my reports from FactCheck.org under Category: Politics 2008 you will see that Romney is the  running far ahead of the other candidates in exaggerating his record of achievement.  In fact, he doesn't appear to be able to give the straight honest facts on anything.  I really dislike liars.


"Most of the focus today in the Republican presidential fight was in South Carolina where polling showed McCain and Huckabee running very close. No Republican has won the party's nomination without winning the South Carolina primary."

A vote for Huckabee IMO is a wasted vote as he is not going to carry the country.  Of course if the Republicans are silly enough to put him up then the country will have a real horse race for the presidency and it will be a toss up as to which incompetent wins.    Not a whole lot of difference between Clinton, Obama and Huckabee as far as  being bad presidential material is concerned.

"No single state's vote is going to end the race or give any candidate all that much momentum. The contest will likely extend until at least Feb. 5, when 22 states vote and a huge chunk of both parties' delegates are at stake."

This of course is the day that will settle the race.  I still believe it will be a Giuliani/McCain ticket for the Republicans;  or at least I hope so.  I simply don't see anyone else being able to handle the presidency at this point in history when the country and the world is so unsettled and real leadership is needed.  This is not saying that McCain  or Romney can't lead if given the chance.  But neither man is strong enough to stand up to Congress and therefore the  petty back biting and a baiting will continue as it has been going for the past 16 years. 

The country and world need a leader and the United States is the only country prepared to offer that leadership.  But our president can hardly fill that role when fighting the Monica Lewisky type sideshows.  I personally never gave a hoot who Billy Boy banged or where.  He was merely an alpha male like all presidents and truly if you care to read your history he was  relatively tame.  I cared about how he conducted our affairs on the world stage.  I cared about how he handled the budget and the environment and the entitlements.

Neither can we stand another 8 years of seeing who can be the most outrageous Bush Basher.  I personally got so damned sick of the Democrats bitching and then what did they do when they got control of Congress?  Not one thing.  Not one!

Unfortunately this is the temper of the times and the politicians have gotten into the habit of making these loud obnoxious  noises to keep the people's focus away from their real activities which is of course  lining their pockets and doing favors to get votes so they can continue lining their pockets.  BB

Now we both know  you really could have gotten thru the weekend and even the election without the opinions of a Opinionated Old Broad, but I thank you for coming by and hope you give me your opinions right back on my site or yours.  BB.




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Lies About Hillary? Yes. ( I didn't know it was possible.)


Posted in Politics 2008


Jan. 19, 2008 at 09:16

by BrendaBee

I don't like Hillary Clinton and believe she is as low as a snake, but I hate lies.  So I am passing on this story from FactCheck.org  that gives the true story and countering the video that has gotten more than 3 million hits so far.
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(copied from FactCheck.org)

Crooked Claims About Clinton
Four-time convicted felon falsely accuses Clinton in video viewed by millions.
Summary
In a video that has logged millions of views on the Internet since early October, Peter Paul, a felon who helped produce a gala fundraiser for the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton’s 2000 Senate campaign, makes a number of false or misleading charges against the presidential contender and former First Lady. Among them:


1) The video gives the false impression that the Clintons somehow caused Paul to be investigated for securities fraud as retaliation for a lawsuit he filed against them. But the investigation, and Paul’s indictment, came first.

2) A lawyer appearing on the video claims that a telephone conversation between Paul, Hillary Clinton and others shows that she had knowledge of and perpetrated illegal campaign activities, when the conversation illustrates no such thing. It only shows Hillary thanking organizers of a fundraiser.

3) The same lawyer alleges that the actions of Clinton and those working for her amounted to "the largest fraud in election funding history," a claim that is absurd. The campaign was fined for a reporting violation, not "fraud." And the fine was relatively modest compared with other FEC fines.

4) The video makes deceptive use of an ABC "20/20" clip in an effort to prove that the Clintons pretended not to know who Paul was after his criminal past came to light.
 
 
Analysis

Last fall, a video attacking Hillary Clinton began attracting attention on the Internet. A lot of attention, in fact, it garnered more than 1.4 million views in its first month, and is up to more than 3.4 million at this writing.

Clocking in at about 13 minutes, the piece is a preview of a longer movie that makes various charges against the Clintons stemming from a Hollywood fundraiser in 2000, when Hillary Clinton was running for the Senate. That DVD is for sale. We analyzed only the preview, because it is readily available on the Internet and has drawn such a large audience; we viewed the longer film to make sure we weren't misunderstanding Paul's charges.

The video reminds us of various "documentaries" that proliferated in the early years of Bill Clinton's presidency. "The Mena Coverup," "The Clinton Chronicles" and others accused Clinton of a range of illegal and unethical acts. Like many, we daresay most, of those, this video contains a lot of false, unproven and misleading material. And what it leaves out is often more important than what it tells us.

The Main Event

The video begins with shots of a glitzy Hollywood fundraiser, billed as a tribute to President Clinton, on Aug. 12, 2000. Cher, Diana Ross and Sugar Ray performed. The glitterati glittered madly. If you were in L.A. for the Democratic National Convention, opening two days later, this party was the A-list place to be. The Clintons appear to be thoroughly enjoying themselves. Sitting with them is the narrator of the video, Peter Paul, a cohost and executive producer of the event.

hill.billPaul was a thrice-convicted felon at the time, a fact that wasn't known to the Clintons or aides who were working to set up the gala, according to a lawyer for the Clintons. ("It was missed" by vetters for the campaign, he told us.) In the late 1970s, Paul was convicted of conspiring to defraud the Cuban government of $8.75 million by selling it a nonexistent shipload of coffee beans, and of possession of cocaine with intent to distribute. He served about 40 months in prison. (Paul claims that he was part of a covert government operation when he was arrested for these crimes.) In the 1980s, he again served time when he violated parole by lying to a Customs officer (again, he claims to have been secretly working with the government.) He chalked up his fourth conviction with a 2005 guilty plea in a securities fraud case ... but we'll get to that shortly.

Paul begins his story with the startling declaration that he decided to help Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party as a way to cozy up to Bill Clinton, whom he hoped to persuade to be a rainmaker for the company he cofounded, Stan Lee Media, after Clinton left the White House. Rarely does a contributor so directly and so publicly state that he opened up his wallet in order to try to get something of value from a politician.

paul.imagePaul: I decided, well, maybe I should reach out to Bill Clinton to work with us and be a rainmaker for the company when he left the White House. I could accomplish my objective by becoming a major contributor to the party. ... My interest in supporting Hillary Clinton was specifically to hire Bill Clinton.
The video cuts to shots of various fundraising events, for the Democratic Party, for Hillary Clinton, for Al Gore, as well as a photo of Hillary Clinton with her arms around Paul and his wife. Then Hillary is on stage at the big gala, thanking Paul and his business partner, Stan Lee, co-creator of such characters as Spider-Man and the Hulk when he was at Marvel Comics.

The uber-event,
$1,000 a ticket, $25,000 per couple if you wanted dinner, was to benefit New York Senate 2000, a joint committee consisting of Hillary Clinton's campaign committee, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and the New York Democratic Party. Paul claims on camera that by producing it, which he later says cost him nearly $2 million, he sealed the deal he wanted: Bill Clinton promised to work with him after he left office. (Paul has said in other venues that Clinton was to be paid $15 million in stock and cash for representing the company.) But Paul offers no evidence in the video to support this claim. He said in an interview with FactCheck.org that nobody witnessed his conversations with Clinton about this and that he had nothing in writing.

A Tangled Web

Three days after the fundraiser, we learn in the video, The Washington Post ran a short item revealing Paul's felony record; Hillary Clinton's spokesperson, Howard Wolfson, first said her campaign would accept no contributions from him, then two days later corrected himself to say it would return the single $2,000 check it had received from Paul. As for Paul's production of the gala, Wolfson said it was an in-kind contribution.

"The Clintons now had to pretend that they did not even know who Peter Paul was," says an unidentified man on the video. Paul told us the man is Doug Cogan, who coproduced the film with him. Cogan is a conservative Republican and a San Bernardino County, Calif., commercial real estate broker who is a believer in Paul's cause.

clinton.pauls.image It's false, though, that the Clintons feigned no knowledge of Paul. True, they hardly came rushing forward to volunteer the various contacts they'd had with him. But they didn't pretend not to know him. Paul's video makes deceptive use of a clip from an ABC "20/20" segment in which reporter Brian Ross asks Clinton if she recalls Peter Paul, and she turns and walks away. First, Paul's video doesn't tell us that the clip dates from July 2001, which is almost a year after The Washington Post item. Among many developments in the interim: Stan Lee Media had collapsed and Paul was living in Brazil, a fugitive from securities fraud charges. He had also filed a lawsuit against the Clintons. In addition, in the fuller version of the "20/20" story, we see that Hillary Clinton, confronted by Ross, simply says she won't discuss Paul. She never says she didn't know who he was.

Paul says on the video that privately, even after The Washington Post disclosures, the Clintons were still in touch, and he received from them signed photos from the gala and thank you notes for putting on the event. That much is true, if the photos on the Web site dedicated to Paul's allegations can be believed. As for his claim that, around that time, Hillary Clinton's "finance director faxed me a request for $100,000," that's mostly true, but a bit misleading. The money had been promised by Paul months earlier, was to be paid in stock, not cash, and was to go to a group called Working Families, which was supporting Hillary Clinton, not to Clinton's own campaign committee.

The video then takes us into allegations of business fraud by Bill Clinton. Cogan and Paul claim on camera that the president, through an associate,
stole away a Japanese investor who had promised to put $5 million into Stan Lee Media. The Clinton associate, according to the video, cut a different deal with the investor that didn't involve Paul's company. Paul offers no evidence on the video to support that, and since it is currently the subject of a lawsuit, we'll let the court decide that one. We can say, however, that it's quite a stretch to claim that Stan Lee Media was forced out of business as a result:
Paul: So that began to trigger a meltdown of the stock. The company collapsed as a result.
Not exactly. It's pretty clear that it would have taken a lot more than $5 million from any investor to save Stan Lee Media.

The price of the company's stock had soared in early 2000, and according to federal prosecutors and a later guilty plea by Paul, there was a reason for that: Paul was manipulating the stock, trading it through accounts that hid his ownership and paying stock promoters to execute trades that made it appear there was a constant demand for shares in Stan Lee Media. He also used the pumped-up stock to borrow millions of dollars on margin from the brokerage firm Merrill Lynch. Things started to fall apart when Paul and his colleague started shifting money around in order to repay the brokerage loans, prosecutors said, and when the two stopped making payments to the stock analysts, the share price plummeted. On Dec. 16, 2000, virtually all of Stan Lee Media's 100-plus staff members were laid off. Nasdaq halted trading of the stock when the price fell to 13 cents.

By the end of the month, Paul was on a plane to Brazil, saying he had a business there that needed attention.

Busted in Brazil

In June 2001, while Paul was in Brazil, two things happened: One, the grand jury in the Eastern District of New York handed up its charges against him. And two, he filed a lawsuit against the Clintons and several other parties. In the video, Paul implies that the lawsuit came first and that the Clintons pulled the strings of government to shut him up because of it:
Paul: We had filed a civil suit against the Clintons. ... And then I discovered that I was being investigated in connection with the misuse of my brokerage accounts.
Paul actually filed suit on June 19, 2001, according to legal documents, days after his June 8 indictment, and well after he knew of the investigation that led to it. Besides, Bill Clinton was no longer president at this point, and the U.S. attorney that indicted Paul reported to a Republican Department of Justice, which was part of the Republican administration.

According to a Justice Department press release that later summed up the case, Paul "refused to return after the United States Attorney's Office informed him that he was the target of a criminal investigation" :
DOJ press release, March 8, 2005: Subsequent to the filing of first (sic) indictment, Paul again refused the United States Attorney's Office demand that he return to this country. Accordingly, the government sought the assistance of law enforcement authorities in Brazil. On August 3, 2001, Paul was arrested in Brazil and jailed pending the outcome of extradition proceedings, which Paul contested for the next two years.
Campaign Cash Charges

Paul wasn't extradited to the U.S. until September 2003. Meanwhile, though, his attorneys at Judicial Watch, a conservative legal group that dogged the Clintons through the 1990s with a stream of document demands and related lawsuits, had met with Justice Department officials and given them some of Paul's documents having to do with the gala fundraiser. Prosecutors flew to Brazil to meet with him. They began an investigation.

But they didn't turn up much. The prosecutors secured an indictment against David Rosen, the Clinton campaign's finance director, alleging he caused false reports to be filed with the Federal Election Commission putting the cost of the gala at about $519,000, when Paul claimed to have spent $1.9 million to produce it. But the jury acquitted Rosen. His lawyers argued, among other things, that he had no motive to underreport the expenses, because the amount cleared by the Clinton campaign was unaffected by how much Paul spent. There were no other indictments.

Meanwhile, the FEC, mounting its own enforcement action in connection with the gala triggered by a complaint by Paul, couldn't find much to go after, either. It reached a conciliation agreement with New York Senate 2000 and its treasurer, Andrew Grossman, in December 2005. The settlement involved a payment to the FEC of $35,000 and required New York Senate 2000 to amend its disclosure report to reflect an additional $721,895 in in-kind contributions, bringing the total to $1.24 million. As to Hillary Clinton specifically, the agency voted 5-0 on a motion to "[f]ind no reason to believe that Hillary Rodham Clinton violated any provision of the [Federal Election Campaign] Act or regulations in connection with this matter and close the file as to her." Two of the votes were from Republicans and three from Democrats.

That's not part of Paul's video, either.

The Crimes That Weren't

armorIn the video, John Armor, who is identified as a "constitutional law specialist," makes several false claims against Hillary Clinton. They're based on a five-minute videotape of a phone conversation between Paul, Hillary Clinton, Stan Lee and others in Paul's office, which he says provides smoking-gun evidence of Clinton's involvement in "a number of violations of the law" in connection with the fundraising event. Armor's is not a familiar name to campaign finance experts. He says on his Web site that he has represented the campaigns of Eugene McCarthy, John Anderson and Ross Perot, mainly on ballot-access matters, and that he has argued cases before the Supreme Court. He is a sometime-counsel to the American Civil Rights Union, a group set up at least in part to counter the American Civil Liberties Union and whose policy board includes former Attorney General Edwin Meese, former Judge Robert Bork and the former independent counsel who spent years looking into various allegations against Bill Clinton, Kenneth Starr.
Armor: First of all, it shows that she had personal involvement and personal knowledge of the details of this gala, whereas she has had her representatives, in the criminal court, in the civil case and before the FEC, represent that she had no knowledge of this. So that is suborning perjury. That is obstructing justice.
You hear her describing how she solicited a contribution by Cher, who was to be one of the main performers at this gala. Now, what she did there would be legal only if the services of Cher to come and sing at a concert are worth less than $2,000. Therefore she was soliciting an illegal contribution. So that, too, is a violation of the law. ...
She says on this tape that Kelly [Craighead, a Clinton staffer] ... had fully briefed her, quote unquote, up to the point of the phone call, and furthermore that she would keep her informed after that. So there’s the connection of the candidate to this allegedly independent program. And the FEC law is quite clear, it is a felony, punishable by up to five years in jail, for a candidate to be directly involved in this sort of fundraising activity if it exceeds $25,000. And the FEC found that it exceeded $1.2 million. It’s crime on tape, very simple.
Let's start by saying the fundraiser itself was perfectly legal, and these kinds of events, albeit usually with less star power, took place frequently before passage of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 . Now we'll take Armor's charges in turn. First, he says the videotape shows Clinton "had personal involvement and personal knowledge of the details of this gala," contrary to the representations of her lawyers. That's false. Clinton was certainly aware of the upcoming fundraiser, but all we hear in this phone call is a politician's routine call scratching under the chin those who are knocking themselves out for her. The videotape doesn't show that she knew the kind of "details," such as how much it cost to fly Cher in and how that was being paid for, that would show that she might have known about underreporting of expenses. What Clinton's lawyers have maintained is that "she didn't know about the disclosure issues," says Ken Gross, a former FEC enforcement chief who practices campaign finance law and isn't involved in this case. "There's a big difference between knowing some things about the fundraiser and knowing what was disclosed on the forms. The former is not legally relevant to whether she's culpable." Although Clinton does say that her aide gave her "a full report" on the event, there's no evidence the aide shared with her detailed breakdowns of cost.

Next, Armor says that Clinton was soliciting an illegal contribution because a performance by Cher is worth more than $2,000, which was the most an individual could contribute to a candidate in 2000. That's false in two ways. One, the video provides no evidence that Clinton solicited anything. She does mention having talked to Cher:
Hillary Clinton: I talked with Cher, and she was just great. She said she really was excited. And I hadn't talked to her, so you had to have really done a good job selling it to her.
Somebody else solicited Cher to appear at the fundraiser. Clinton may have thanked her for agreeing to perform, but she did not ask her to do so.

And Cher's performance was not an illegal contribution anyway,
nor were those by Diana Ross and the other stars who studded the gala. Under federal law, anyone can volunteer his or her services to a campaign, and the value of those services is not counted against federal contribution limits. Lawyers, graphic artists, entertainers, accountants, chefs and others do it all the time.

Armor further charges that the video proves "the connection of the candidate to this allegedly independent program." But the fundraiser was never meant to be "independent," a term which has a very specific meaning in campaign law. It was to benefit the DSCC, the Democratic Party in New York and Hillary Clinton's campaign committee, and it was perfectly legal for representatives of all three groups, including Clinton, to be involved in planning it.

Later in the video, Armor declares that this was "the largest fraud in election funding history." That's absurd. The only finding of anything illegal in connection with the fundraiser was the underreporting of the cost of the event by about $722,000, which resulted in a fine of $35,000. To put this in context, last year alone the FEC collected 10 fines of $100,000 or more. People sometimes go to prison for campaign fraud.

The Civil (Ahem?) Suit

Paul's lawsuit against the Clintons and others,
a version of the same one that was filed and dismissed in 2001 when Paul was a fugitive, hasn't been faring particularly well in California state court. Earlier this month, the state Supreme Court refused to review lower court decisions dismissing Hillary Clinton and her Senate campaign committee as defendants in the case, driving what appears to be the final stake in his effort to keep her roped in. As to the remaining defendants, including Bill Clinton, what's left of the suit largely has to do with the alleged wooing of Paul's Japanese business investor into a separate partnership. It's possible, though, that Hillary Clinton could be called as a witness.

Return of the Clinton-Bashers

Many of the individuals and groups helping Paul have long histories of Clinton-bashing or attacks on other Democrats. David Schippers, for example, who appears on the tape, is the former chief investigative counsel for the Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee during the 1998 Clinton impeachment hearings.

Another character from that era who is involved in this story is Lucianne Goldberg. Goldberg rose to prominence as the person behind Linda Tripp's plan to tape her conversations with friend Monica Lewinsky in connection with Lewinsky's relationship with Bill Clinton. Paul told us that he became friendly with Goldberg via e-mail when he was in a Brazilian prison (don't even ask) and that it was Goldberg who "leaked" the unfinished video, which was intended to be cut down to be a preview, to the media in October last year.

Paul is now represented by another conservative legal group, the United States Justice Foundation, after having a falling-out with, and suing, Judicial Watch. Paul contended that Judicial Watch used his case as a fundraising tool for itself while doing little to help him legally, which the group denies. USJF is behind the Hillary Clinton Accountability Project (HillCAP), a Web site that features court documents, news articles and other material related to Paul's complaints against the Clintons. According to the Associated Press, the HillCAP Web site is operated by two conservatives who were instrumental in the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth site in 2004, Robert Hahn and Scott Swett.

Earlier this month, Paul asked the FEC to reopen its investigation into the 2000 fundraiser, claiming the videotaped phone conversation we mentioned earlier is further proof of crimes related to the event, and that New York Senate 2000 has not properly complied with the conciliation agreement. The agency has not yet acted.

Meanwhile, Paul is still awaiting sentencing on his securities fraud conviction.

Paul's movie isn't the only one that is lobbing accusations at Hillary Clinton. Citizens United, another group that long has been involved in efforts against the Clintons, is selling "Hillary: the Movie" online and was in federal court recently over its attempt to run ads for the film in primary states during election season. The ads contain clips from the movie, including one of former Clinton adviser Dick Morris saying that Hillary Clinton "is the closest thing we have to a European socialist." A three-judge panel ruled this week that the ads amounted to electioneering and could be run only with a disclaimer and only if Citizens United disclosed its donors to the FEC.

Given the passions, pro and con, that Hillary and Bill Clinton seem to ignite, it's a good bet we can expect more such films before the election is over.

 by Viveca Novak

 
 
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